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Subject: Re: Lack of Drivers... Date: Mon Nov 14 2011 09:57:00
From: Mikesla To: Boraxman

-=> Boraxman wrote to Mikesla <=-

 Bo>   Re: Re: Lack of Drivers...
 Bo>   By: Mikesla to Cykros on Sun Nov 13 2011 09:08 am

 > I agree with you to a point. It is up to the companies who sell the Hardware
 > but it's also the responsiblity for those who create a OS to make their OS
 > compatible with what is on the market as well. So both are too blame here.
 >
 >  See there it is, the internal hardware is Conexant chipsets. They have a
 > a large database of supported linux types, unfortunatly the Ubuntu 11.10 is
 > Oneiric is not supported. BUT, they do have generic drivers which should
 > work. Here is the problem, since I require to have internet to download
 > Ubuntu's kernel files, and all dependencies, I can't compile for some odd
 > reason the Generic modem drivers which I am pretty sure would work.
 >
 >  Cy>Consumer laziness has its price.
 >
 > Sooooo, true!
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 Bo> Ubuntu 11.10 may not be supported because of the fact its new, and the
 Bo> website might not be updated.  There is a problem with Internet
 Bo> distribution you have pointed out, but that would be true for any
 Bo> hardware which is requried for internet access.

 Oh I know, and I am willing to wait, but I can't understand why this version
of Unbuntu is not capable of being backward compatible? All I want to do is
install my modem. There are drivers for my modem but for earlier kernel
versions.

 For instance, My modem only comes with drivers for Win98, WinXP, but with a
little
tweaking I have my modem installed, and running beatifully in Windows 7 32 bit,
and
I mean working nicely even though the modem is not suppose to be compatible.
That is
one of the beautiful aspects of Windows, you can install drivers for hardware
made
years before with very little problems.

 Bo> But hardware these days comes undocumented.  The Sound Blaster in days
 Bo> of yore used to come with a programmers manual.  I have a manual for an
 Bo> XT computer which has the BIOS source code and schematics for the
 Bo> machine, enough information to almost let you BUILD a replica.

That is very true.

 Bo> Now you get little information, which I think is a travesety.  As a
 Bo> customer whos purchased a piece of technology, I think I have the right
 Bo> to be able to use it.  By denying customers the information they need
 Bo> to program and use it, they are essentially denying use.  Let me
 Bo> reiterate, I belive that if you buy a card or device, you should get
 Bo> information on how to operate it, which means to program it. If not in
 Bo> the box, available for download.

Again so true. Imagine purchasing a new mother board, and all the documentation
is in PDF format. 

 Bo> If you can't write your own software to utilise it, the product is
 Bo> frankly incomplete and you are being ripped off.


 True...

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