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Subject: Re: Overcoming my problem Date: Mon Nov 14 2011 15:03:00
From: Mikesla To: Gandolf

-=> Gandolf wrote to Mikesla <=-

 >   That is true, I was thinking exactly that. I thought that since Ubuntu
 > has the cd, all are pretty much the same, and require an internet connection
 > to download all it's required dependencies.
 >
 >   About a year ago I was handed a OpenSusi cd, and I had the exact same
proble
 Ga> m.
 > I needed an inrenet connection to download all the required dependencies,
nd
 > when I got Ubuntu I thought it would have been different..nope, same thing.
 >
 >   I just don't understand why they just don't bundle up a full download with
 > everything people need from the start...It just does not make sense to me at
 > all.
 >
 >   Do you have a website which will give me a full DVD version? Also in your
 > opinion which is the best linux OS should I be downloading without running
 > into this again?
 >
 > Thank You, at least I now know that there are full versions out there to be
 > downloaded without needing an internet connection.
 >
 > Cheers.


 Ga> The only distros that has everything put on disk (that I know of) is
 Ga> Debian (8 DVDs) and Slackware.

 Ga> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/iso-dvd/
 Ga> ftp://slackware.mirrors.tds.net/pub/slackware/slackware-13.37-iso/

Thank you very much, I'll see if I can get my brother to get Debian for
me when he has the time. That is one massive download...but well worth
it in the long run.

 Ga> Slackware, on the other hand, is not considered to be for 'beginners.'
 Ga> Most of your time will be in command line, and you will quickly learn
 Ga> to either love or hate vi.

 Thanks. I don't mind the command line option all that much but if I had
a choice of having both such as it is now, going strictly command would
get a bit annoying...but on the other hand learning from the ground up
will make it easier later on to fully understand, and appreciate Linux.

 Ga> As for most other linux distributions, you are unfortunately correct.
 Ga> Most distros have a core set of utils for initial setup, then depend on
 Ga> connecting to the Internet to download the rest.

 It is a pain, but I can understand why they do it though.

 Ga> It may be time to bite the bullet and make the switch to high speed
 Ga> Internet.  I couldn't imagine downloading antivirus definition updates
 Ga> (not to mention security updates for ANY operating system) over dialup.

 I have been feeling a strong urge to upgrade. There is an unfortunate side
effect
of having Highspeed here, it's costs so much to have per month.

 As far as downloading anything it's a real test of ones level of patience. To
download anything over 5 megs gets old real fast. Without a download manager
ou
can kiss most downloads goodbye since many places don't allow you to pick up
from
where you stopped. The largest file I have ever downloaded via my download
manager
was 400 megs, and that took me close to 5 days to complete.

Oh well. There is one good thing I have noticed about Linux though, many of
it's updates
are very small which works out well.

Cheers.
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