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Subject: Overcoming my problem. Date: Tue Nov 15 2011 07:24:00
From: Mikesla To: Access Denied

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 AD>   Re: Overcoming my problem.
 AD>   By: Mikesla to Access Denied on Mon Nov 14 2011 09:20 am

 >  That is true, I was thinking exactly that. I thought that since Ubuntu
 > has the cd, all are pretty much the same, and require an internet connection
 > to download all it's required dependencies.

 AD> Pretty much the same to the new user, but every distro has a variety of
 AD> differences. There's also quite a few different desktop environments
 AD> (GUIs) that you can choose from as well. It's all in how you want to
 AD> setup your system.

 >  About a year ago I was handed a OpenSusi cd, and I had the exact same probl
 > I needed an inrenet connection to download all the required dependencies, an
 > when I got Ubuntu I thought it would have been different..nope, same thing.

 AD> There lies the problem again. You had a OpenSuSE CD, not a DVD.
 AD> OpenSuSE I know for a fact has a 4.7GB DVD, which contains everything
 AD> on the DVD itself. There should be no internet connection required,
 AD> until you want to update.

 AD> Same with Slackware, Gentoo, I believe Debian has one, Sabayon has one.

 AD> Apparantly, Ubuntu does NOT. Not sure why, but it's their loss I guess.

 >  I just don't understand why they just don't bundle up a full download with
 > everything people need from the start...It just does not make sense to me at
 > all.

 AD> *MOST* Distros do this with a DVD release. They usually promote the
 AD> smaller 700mb CDs that require an internet connection because they're
 AD> smaller, and take less time to download and install. Like I've
 AD> mentioned before, you not having an 'always on' internet connection
 AD> puts you in a vast minority.

 >  Do you have a website which will give me a full DVD version? Also in your
 > opinion which is the best linux OS should I be downloading without running
 > into this again?

 AD> Yep. http://google.com .. Google something like "top 10 (or top 20)
 AD> Linux distrobutions" .. study up on what they offer from their main
 AD> sites, and compare it to what you're looking for in a operating system.
 AD> Take a look at some Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, Blackbox, and
 AD> whatever other desktop environment screenshots you can, to see which
 AD> one you think you'd enjoy the best.

 AD> There is no best Linux OS. It's all about choice. You're able to pick
 AD> what you want based on what the different distros offer, unlike M$
 AD> where you're stuck paying for one OS, and one OS only.

 AD> If I were to choose based on my own opinion, I like Gentoo or Debian
 AD> for servers, and Sabayon as a desktop. But that's only because I know
 AD> my way around those distros the best, know how their package managers
 AD> work, and enjoy using them. Everyone else has their own opinion,
 AD> though, including you. That's why your best bet would be to check them
 AD> all out. Try out some LiveCDs or LiveDVDs where you can interact in the
 AD> OS without installing it, etc. Venture outside of Ubuntu's grasp for
 AD> awhile and find something you like. :)

 > Thank You, at least I now know that there are full versions out there to be
 > downloaded without needing an internet connection.

 AD> No problem.

 AD> Yep. There's quite a few of them, actually.

 Hi.

 Well I looked over allot of what you have suggested, and I finally decided
on Debian. That is one HUGH download of 8 DVD's, and 2 Updates. It will be
worth it in the end since getting Highspeed at the moment isn't in the cards.

 I just want to thank you for your help, and all the help others have given
me. I just have to wait now for the software.

Cheers, and thanks again.

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