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Subject: PPL These Days Date: Tue Jul 12 2016 16:33:00
From: Gryphon To: Daryl Stout

On 07/12/16, Daryl Stout said the following...
 
 DS>  DS>   The one thing God requires is "to believe on The One He Has Sent".

 DS>  Gr> Why should anybody believe that?

 DS>   If you choose not to believe it, that is your CHOICE.

Hehehe.  That doesn't answer my question.  You're just shrugging it off.  

So I'll ask it again.  Of all the choices for belief, why should anybody believe
as you do?

 DS>  Gr> Does free will really exist?  Can you prove it?  Can you chose to
 DS>  Gr> believ in islam, right here and right now?  You *are* free to choose,
 DS>  Gr> right?

 DS>   We make the decisions in life that are solely our responsibility. Whether
 DS> t's
 DS> in regards to religion, where we live, what we do for a living, etc., we
 DS> have to live with the outcomes.

 DS>   If free will didn't exist, all of us would be "robots", doing the same
 DS> thing. God didn't want robots, so He gave us the choice to accept Him or
 DS> reject Him.
 
First off, you now are claiming to know the mind of god and what it wants. 
You have no idea if it wants robot worshipers or not.  That is your personal
addition to the narrative.

Second off, according to your criteria, you already ARE robots.  You behave just
as you are programed to behave.  You say just what you are programmed to say.
You think exactly what you are programmed to think.

By choosing to not accept it, you are actually choosing to NOT be a robot.

 DS>  DS>   Also, Christians are commanded to "love and pray for our enemies".
 DS>  DS> other faiths want non-believers dead.

 DS>  Gr> That doesn't mean that they do that.  Hitler was a Catholic, yet he d
 DS>  Gr> not love and pray for his enemies, did he?

 DS>   Just because one is saved doesn't mean they lose that "sin nature". The
 DS> believers won't lose that until either death, or the Rapture of The Church.

So that's the morality that the bible teaches us.  That you don't have to be
responsible for your own actions.  You can do what ever feels good and just
ask for forgiveness, then go off and do what ever feels good some more. 
What's to keep you from raping and murdering and coveting and cheating your
fellows?  Nothing!  You've been forgiven!  I believe thats what the
indulgences were all about, right?

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