On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...
DS> Gr> Of course he is. What messiah worshiping cult would be without the
DS> Gr> impending return. How embarrassing would it be for you if it already
DS> Gr> came and left without saying hello.
DS> He will return in two phases...first, to Rapture His Church, then 7 years
DS> later to save the believing remnant of Jews from being destroyed.
So this only applies to Jews?
DS> Josh McDowell, in his book, "Evidence That Demands A Verdict", notes
DS> three categories that Jesus Christ could be...the first two are what
DS> the world feels He is (and from your posts, you likely feel the same);
DS> but the third one is what He claims to be.
Ah, so we're relying on the opinions of other human, mortal men for our
beliefs in this unknowable god?
DS> 1) Liar - If everything He said and did was false, then ALL of us...
DS> present company included...are headed for eternal doom in The Lake
DS> Of Fire. But, the Apostles and so many others throughout history could
DS> have easily recanted their belief and faith in Jesus Christ...yet, they
DS> chose to die tortuous, violent deaths instead. They were eyewitnesses of
DS> His Majesty, and besides, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??
This is a false dichotomy. Those aren't the only two alternatives. I is
entirely possible, even plausible, that you can have it wrong on ALL counts.
DS> After Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden Of Eden, God spoke of
DS> His Plan of Redemption. Satan wasted no time in setting up counterfeit
DS> plans. The Bible also notes that "When Satan lies, he speaks his native
DS> language".
DS> 2) Lunatic - The Jews feel that He was, at best, either a misunderstood
DS> rabbi, who didn't have all his marbles together...or at worst, He was a
DS> deceiving blasphemer. He was not "The Messiah" they wanted...a godlike
DS> warrior who would throw off Roman Rule, and usher in the Millenial Kingdom.
DS> When He told them that He was "the only way to Heaven", the
DS> Jews (and the rest of the world) was furious.
DS> 3) Lord - He is who He claims to be, and what you do with Him will
DS> determine whether you go to Heaven or Hell. You can either bow down to
DS> Him eagerly in this life; or be compelled to on Judgment Day, before
DS> He regretfully casts you into The Lake Of Fire.
DS> As noted so many times, if I'm wrong, I'm not worried. But, if you
DS> are wrong, your death will be the start of your problems. And, I can't
DS> go to Hell...because I've done "the one thing that God requires" (believing
DS> on The One He Has Sent), He counts me as "righteous",
DS> although it's the Righteousness of Christ, and NONE of my own.
As I've stated many times, you are very wrong. Just because you believe this
false dichotomy that either your right and you're good, or you're wrong and
nothing happens, it doesn't mean that that will be the case. You could very
will be following the wrong teachings and pissing off this god, and you could
still end up in this lake of fire. Or some other eternal torture chamber. This
is what you are unwilling to consider. You've insulated yourself in
that belief, and you are blithely ignoring reality at your own peril. I know
that your ego won't allow you to think that you are wrong, but that would
just be one of those failings that you would be judged on, right?
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