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Subject: PPL These Days Date: Thu Jul 14 2016 10:12:00
From: Gryphon To: Daryl Stout

On 07/13/16, Daryl Stout said the following...
 DS>  Gr> This decree that you find yourself bound to makes no effort to examin
 DS>  Gr> whether or not these beliefs are true.  This amounts to fraud.

 DS>   Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE??!! Millions through the ages, including
 DS> the Apostles, died horrific deaths, rather than recant their faith in
 DS> Christ. They could've easily recanted their faith and lived...but they
 DS> chose death by such things as being burned at the stake, thrown to the
 DS> lions, impaled, crucified, sawed in half, etc. 

Are you kidding me?  History is rife with people who have died horribly for a
lie!  How many soldiers have gone to their death fighting for a lie?  Then
you have the gall to tell me stories that you have no way to determine if
they were true or not?

 DS>  DS>   One day, we'll know who is right (the Christians or the
 DS>  DS> non-Christians)... that fact can NOT be denied!!

 DS>  Gr> There is no argument there.  The problem is what do you do with this
 DS>  Gr> one life that you KNOW we have.  Do you turn a blind eye on it and
 DS>  Gr> forsake it in lieu of a life you really have no way of knowing will
 DS>  Gr> come your way?

 DS>   By faith, I know what's coming my way...and it's far better than what the
 DS> life on Earth has been.

And what if you're wrong?

 DS>  Gr> Just ask yourself.  Why is there judgment at all?  Why does there hav
 DS>  Gr> to be judgment?  Why does there have to be a hell to punish the wrong
 DS>  Gr> does?  Why can't this god just take everybody to its bosom no matter
 DS>  Gr> what?  Why does your god keep a place of torment to keep people in
 DS>  Gr> line?  What does it have to lose if you don't toe the line?  How does
 DS>  Gr> it hurt it to do away with this place of torment?

 DS>   Because The Lord Made The Rules. He created The Lake Of Fire for Satan
 DS> and his demons...and for all those who reject The Gospel.

Do you not see what you are saying?  Do we need to break it down for you
again?

 DS>  Gr> That just illustrates to me that you have no desire for knowing the
 DS>  Gr> truth about your beliefs. When have you ever critically examined your
 DS>  Gr> beliefs? Where did they come from?  How did you get them?  What are t
 DS>  Gr> linchpins? What would happen if one of those linchpins of your faith
 DS>  Gr> were to be undone? Would you be prepared for the fallout if any of yo
 DS>  Gr> linchpins to your faith were ever removed?

 DS>   In a word, faith. As I've said before, I've seen way too many evidences
 DS> of God working in my puny life, that those trump any and all of your
 DS> arguments. 

You've seen evidence?  Why are you being stingy?  I've been asking you for
evidence this whole time and you've not said one thing about it.  This whole
time you've been going on and on about the things that other people say about
god, the mind of god and the stories of god, but you have evidence in your
back pocket and you refused to share it?


 DS>   No one has yet been able to disprove anything from the Bible. While there
 DS> are several prophecies that have not yet happened, they WILL occur.

Not one thing has been disproved?  Not one single thing?  How specific are these
prophecies?

 DS>   Again, WHO WOULD DIE FOR A LIE?? Would YOU die for something you knew
 DS> to be a lie??

No, I would not willingly die for something that I knew to be a lie.  THAT IS
WHY I WOULD DO ALL I COULD TO VERIFY THE TRUTH FROM THE LIE!  If I'm going to
die, I want to know it is for the truth, and not a lie.  But some people will
willingly believe a lie if it is couched in so much feel-good stories.

 DS>   Since, you have no interest in what I have posted, I am not going to
 DS> waste any more time with you. Jesus Christ said "By your fruits, you
 DS> shall know them", and your posts tell me that you want nothing to do
 DS> with The Gospel. 

I keep telling you.  I want to know WHY you believe what you believe.  What
evidence did you evaluate that raised it to the level of belief.  You keep
shrugging me off.  You keep denying your duty.  It makes me wonder whether or
not you care if your beliefs are true or not.

 DS>   In short, your blood is off of my hands. 

So long as you feel good about your behavior, that's all that matters, isn't it?

 DS>   Since you apparently want to pay for your own sins, go for it. Mine
 DS> are paid for by the Shed Blood Of Jesus Christ...and I can never thank
 DS> Him enough for what He did.

Cool story bro.

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