On 07/14/16, Daryl Stout said the following...
DS> me> And anyone who thinks they should spend eternity with Jesus, while
DS> me> other decent people burn in hell, seems pretty self-centered. Maybe y
DS> me> tried to turn people into believers, but they just couldn't wrap thei
DS> me> heads around the miracle of Jesus, so unfortunately, eternal damnatio
DS> me> is their destiny.
DS> Everyone gets at least one chance to hear the Gospel...and sadly, not
DS> everyone will accept it. With it being "a free gift", with the ONLY
DS> requirement that each person accept this Free Love Gift by believing on The
DS> Lord Jesus Christ, the One that God has sent; the fact that most reject it
DS> likely makes the angels of glory shudder in utter disbelief.
Do you even listen to yourself? How can a "free gift" be free if there are
conditions attached to it? If there is ONLY one requirement, then the gift
is not free, is it?
DS> However, I believe that for those who accepted Christ, there will NOT
DS> be any memory or thought of family members, loved ones, friends, who are
DS> not in Heaven, because they chose NOT to accept Christ as Lord and Saviour.
So god will alter a person's mind and memories and make them robots? This is
a kind and loving god?
DS> Or, maybe those in Heaven will have more than "the peace that passes
DS> all understanding" in that while everyone had the same chance to accept
DS> or reject Christ as they did, some chose to accept it, while others
DS> chose to reject it. That is an unknown to the believer, until they get
DS> to Heaven.
Frankly, it is an unknown to believer and unbeliever alike. The only ones
who know are all dead and we can't ask them.
DS> Heaven is a place where there is no sorrow, crying, mourning, pain, or
DS> death. Knowing that a family member, loved one, or friend was in Hell
DS> because they chose to reject The Lord, would violate and destroy that
DS> joy.
So heaven is a place where everybody sits around contemplating their navel?
If god can create peace in heavan, then he can do it on Earth.
DS> As the song notes "One day, we'll understand it better, by and by".
DS> But, it brings up a conumdrum that "Everybody wants to go to Heaven,
DS> but nobody wants to die". Death is a prerequisite to eternity, either
DS> with God, or without Him...and eternity is FOREVER.
This creates a conundrum for the believer. If heaven is so wonderful, then
why do you do everything in your power to stave it off? Wouldn't you be
playing in traffic or licking power outlets?
DS> Sadly, for those who chose to reject The Lord, they will forever have the
DS> memory that they had the chance to accept Christ, and they turned it down.
Why should I believe any such tale?
DS> King Agrippa, who the Apostle Paul, testified in front of, noted that
DS> "you're almost persuading me to become a Christian". But, the word "almost"
DS> is like the joke with the word "close" -- it only counts in horseshoes and
DS> hand grenades.
This sounds like a historical event that would have been recorded like many
events that were recorded around King Agrippa. I'd like to see this
documentation.
DS> In truth, God wanted "a family", and before the foundation of the
DS> world, the Divine Plan was that He Himself would bear His Own Righteous
DS> Judgment, scourging, and crucifixion, even though He had no sin to pay for.
DS> But, He took upon Himself, in the Person of His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ,
DS> God In The Flesh, the sins of everyone who had or will ever
DS> live, plus the Divine Judgment that was meant for us. His Death and
DS> Resurrection opened the gates of Heaven to any and all who would believe
DS> upon Him to forgive their sins, by the shedding of His Precious Blood.
god wanted a family? Why not use the family that was created when it was
created? If there can be one god, there can certainly be other family
members for this god. Just because you think you know god, doesn't mean you
know everything about this god.
DS> God's Free Gift of Salvation, while available to everyone who would
DS> ask, coming to Him in humility and repentance...it expires upon ones death.
As we have found out earlier, this 'free gift' comes with a price. So it is not
free.
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