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Subject: Re: Unity fail or not Date: Wed Aug 28 2013 14:56:00
From: Dingo To: Mojo

M>  > I have tried to like Unity.. I really tried.. but just can't get i
M>  
M> +1.  I am not adverse to change.  I've tried also on many occasions t
M> d up continously frustrated.  I
am back to Gnome Fallback until 2017 
 
I have to say, I was a very early adopter of KDE vs. Gnome around the 
time of Windows 98's release, when KDE looked like a hybrid of "Chose 
your adventure: Mac OS System 7 style, or Windows 95 style, or both!" 
and gnome had this sort of "We look like windows/mac, but we're doing 
our own thing, too, and, we're not even really a window manager, we're 
a suite of many things". I even assisted in authoring GTK-ICQ, because 
we were so gaga over GTK/Gnome and were so pleased when GTK 2.0 was 
released with themes.
 
Anyway I ended up in Windowmaker shortly after, stuck with it for a 
long time, and before Gnome and KDE both went to shit by committee, I 
ended up reverting to twm and later cwm -- versions of window managers 
that were originally used in the 1980's! With (gasp!) 
focus-folows-mouse by default.
 
Its been nearly 10 years now that I've stuck with that -- other than 
using OSX quite a bit, and although not TERRIBLY happy with it, I'm 
pretty pleased with their most recent "fullscreen" modes, which allows 
me to have my fullscreen, borderless terminals, just like I get with 
cwm, and iTerm gives me the multiple terminals, fullscreen, split 
horizontally or vertically, though, i never learned to use it, 
fullscreen is fine enough so long as I can swap between the tabs easily 
with <cloverleaf>-<left/right>.
 
Anyway, its a little sad to see all of the linux/bsd mailing 
list/discussion forums just littered with complains and griefs about 
the directions gnome and kde has gone. I feel like it has distracted an
accumulated hundreds of thousands of hours of productivity from people 
who wanted more to their computer than figuring out how to customize 
their window manager to just manage their god damned windows without 
being so difficult -- or changing or breaking those customizations 
every 6 months.
 
Window management really isn't all that hard.... at least apple, even 
though I disagree with their color-based icons for changing window size 
to maximum/minimum/whatever-it-actually-does-with-itunes, at least its 
been that way since the early 90's and its still that way today. My 
last job had us using Windows 8 and the Metro interface confused the 
hell out of me and cost me a lot of frustration and effort to find my 
way around that I really would have rather spent getting work done D:
 
Why must they keep changing it? Is managing windows really so hard? Who
actually *wants* one window partially obscured and covered by another? 
isn't -everything-is-fullscreen- really what we've always wanted, ala 
the iOS devices and such? When you end up getting a 27" monitor, don't 
you really just wish you had two seperate 19" monitors instead?
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