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Subject: Re: Interestingly Enough. Date: Wed Nov 14 2007 05:31:00
From: Finnigann To: Mrproper

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 Mr>   Re: Re: Interestingly Enough.
 Mr>   By: Finnigann to Mrproper on Tue Nov 13 2007 12:39 pm

 >  Where is it you find WHITE people upset (as if they had been singled
 >  out) by saying N*gger?

 Mr> It's all over the news these days.. and at times I use the word nigger
 Mr> and it pisses people I know off.. just as you just censored the word
 Mr> nigger, WHY are you using that word in a derrogatory nature against
 Mr> anyone? Why must you censor yourself.

 Because I personally hate that word. I hate what it means to nearly
 everyone else. It's a word that means 'second class'.

 You may try to alter it's meaning (as did another poster with the words
 'gay' and 'fagot') But they are words that convey hate.



 Mr> Black comedians use the word nigger what gives them the right to do
 Mr> that? because by doing that they are using in in a slanderious nature,
 Mr> They also call whites crackers, who gives them the right to do that.

 Not all do, and many wont. If they want to, it doesn't change my usage.

 Nothing comes to mind as a 'white'  slang. Perhaps 'craker'? Doesn't
 convey hate to me and is a poor simile...

 
 Mr> When Micheal Richards was heckled at when doing his stand up comedy he
 Mr> called the group of people niggers, how did he know that group of
 Mr> people could have been white people, hispanics, arabs or whatever..

 I didn't see/hear that. But does anyone think he meant anyone other
 than black people?



 Mr> But to sum it up, yes I've had a few white folks get pissed at me for
 Mr> using the word nigger, My black friends don't get mad for me using that
 Mr> word because they know I'm not using it in that context.  I'm not a
 Mr> racially motivated person, I look at one human being just the same as
 Mr> the next, I will not judge anyone by their religion either, sometimes I
 Mr> might have a good debate with them but I'm not judgmental to them.

 If you really respect your black friends, you'd find another word to
 use. I seriously doubt they understand your views as being totally
 benign.

 The word stings.

 Mr> Hope that covers my views on the word NIGGER and why it should'nt be
 Mr> censored.

 A lot of people try to say, "... but NOT me!" It's not entirely YOUR
 perception that is the deciding factor.

 What's that old sig block...
 I know you think you understand what I said.
 But what you don't understand,
 what I said, wasn't what I meant.


 Mr> and I still would like to know why all these white movie stars who say
 Mr> nigger are tarred an feathered on the media and then have to go kiss
 Mr> jesse jackson or al sharptons ass for an apology, while at the same
 Mr> time black and hispanic or other ethnic stars can say nigger, spic,
 Mr> cracker, camel jocky, or whatever else without the least little buzz on
 Mr> the media.
                                                               
 You might, someday.

 Did you ever see/read the work, 'Black Like Me'?

 A journalist takes some medication that causes his skin to darken. In
 the movie, he looks black.
 
 He tells of his life afterwards. Things changed for him, just because
 of his skin color. Same man. Different reactions. Of course the blacks
 that he met treated him differently also. It works two ways. No one is
 exempt. It may not be an issue in a homogenous enviroment, but it's
 there nontheless, just below the surface.

 Perhaps it has survival benefits. Beware of anyone not of our clan.
 Different is dangerous. But we don't live in tiny groups any more.
 Attitudes can change. I hope so anyway.



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