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Subject: Re: Interestingly Enough. Date: Tue Jan 29 2008 14:02:00
From: Slink To: Finnigann

I'm not sure what top posting is, but if it gets me kicked off heaven express
or whatever, I suppose i'm not missing very much.. Not sure why you seem so
angry in this post, but you don't seem very much like a nice person at all. I
hope the best for you and yours.. 

Thanks!
Slink. 
> 
 >       //- With quill in hand, Finnigann 
 >  sends off a short note to Slink, 
 >            about Re: Interestingly Enough. -\\
 > 
 >  Sl> Hey all,
 > 
 >  Sl>   I do not like that word at all either.. I would have to agree that it
 >  Sl> conveys a lot of hate, however, I don't believe in censorship either.
 > 
 >  Nothing but hate. I think I was talking about internal control.
 >  Censorship is me telling you what you can/cannot say.
 > 
 >  Sl> It is really a good thing that people can say those words. It gives us
 >  Sl> an opportunity to see how we have grown as a society, and how far we
 > 
 >  There are far better ways to make that measurement.
 > 
 > 
 >  Sl> are moving to bridge the gap between black and white cultures. So far,
 >  Sl> most people really dislike that word, however we do know that some out
 >  Sl> there still have the tendency to make race a divider between them. Not
 >  Sl> just whites, but blacks as well. If censorship was in place, how would
 >  Sl> we know where the problem spots were?? Sometimes it's nice to have the
 >  Sl> opportunity to be offended every now and again, it gives us a place to
 >  Sl> focus our efforts to promote change. Besides, when it is all done and
 >  Sl> over with, the real judge of us all is God and him alone.
 > 
 >  Saddly, censorship does not stop people, it only makes it a crime. Self
 >  control is the only real answer. When people stop feeling the hate,
 >  then those words will fade away.
 > 
 >  AND when it's all said and done, it will be all siad and done. There
 >  isn't any magical being gonna pin a badge on anyone.
 > 
 > 
 >  If you choose to be a good person, it is far better you do it for the
 >  right reasons. If you think you will get into heaven by not calling me
 >  a nigger, then you'd better be calling me a nigger. Cause there ain't
 >  no such a ting as heaven. It is far better you realise the hurt you
 >  cause (and many times more than just hurt) with words like nigger. Your
 >  not earning a seat on the heaven express.
 > 
 >  And lastly, TOP POSTING is really bad form. That right there will knock
 >  you off the Heaven Express.
 > 
 > 
 >  Sl> Slink
 >  > -=> With regards to the social ramifications;
 >  >      Mrproper wrote to Finnigann <=-
 >  >
 >  >  Mr>   Re: Re: Interestingly Enough.
 >  >  Mr>   By: Finnigann to Mrproper on Tue Nov 13 2007 12:39 pm
 >  >
 >  >  >  Where is it you find WHITE people upset (as if they had been singled
 >  >  >  out) by saying N*gger?
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> It's all over the news these days.. and at times I use the word
nigger
 >  >  Mr> and it pisses people I know off.. just as you just censored the word
 >  >  Mr> nigger, WHY are you using that word in a derrogatory nature against
 >  >  Mr> anyone? Why must you censor yourself.
 >  >
 >  >  Because I personally hate that word. I hate what it means to nearly
 >  >  everyone else. It's a word that means 'second class'.
 >  >
 >  >  You may try to alter it's meaning (as did another poster with the words
 >  >  'gay' and 'fagot') But they are words that convey hate.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> Black comedians use the word nigger what gives them the right to do
 >  >  Mr> that? because by doing that they are using in in a slanderious
nature,
 >  >  Mr> They also call whites crackers, who gives them the right to do that.
 >  >
 >  >  Not all do, and many wont. If they want to, it doesn't change my usage.
 >  >
 >  >  Nothing comes to mind as a 'white'  slang. Perhaps 'craker'? Doesn't
 >  >  convey hate to me and is a poor simile...
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> When Micheal Richards was heckled at when doing his stand up comedy
he
 >  >  Mr> called the group of people niggers, how did he know that group of
 >  >  Mr> people could have been white people, hispanics, arabs or whatever..
 >  >
 >  >  I didn't see/hear that. But does anyone think he meant anyone other
 >  >  than black people?
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> But to sum it up, yes I've had a few white folks get pissed at me
for
 >  >  Mr> using the word nigger, My black friends don't get mad for me using
 > that
 >  >  Mr> word because they know I'm not using it in that context.  I'm not a
 >  >  Mr> racially motivated person, I look at one human being just the same
as
 >  >  Mr> the next, I will not judge anyone by their religion either,
sometimes
 > I
 >  >  Mr> might have a good debate with them but I'm not judgmental to them.
 >  >
 >  >  If you really respect your black friends, you'd find another word to
 >  >  use. I seriously doubt they understand your views as being totally
 >  >  benign.
 >  >
 >  >  The word stings.
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> Hope that covers my views on the word NIGGER and why it should'nt be
 >  >  Mr> censored.
 >  >
 >  >  A lot of people try to say, "... but NOT me!" It's not entirely YOUR
 >  >  perception that is the deciding factor.
 >  >
 >  >  What's that old sig block...
 >  >  I know you think you understand what I said.
 >  >  But what you don't understand,
 >  >  what I said, wasn't what I meant.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  Mr> and I still would like to know why all these white movie stars who
say
 >  >  Mr> nigger are tarred an feathered on the media and then have to go kiss
 >  >  Mr> jesse jackson or al sharptons ass for an apology, while at the same
 >  >  Mr> time black and hispanic or other ethnic stars can say nigger, spic,
 >  >  Mr> cracker, camel jocky, or whatever else without the least little buzz
 > on
 >  >  Mr> the media.
 >  >
 >  >  You might, someday.
 >  >
 >  >  Did you ever see/read the work, 'Black Like Me'?
 >  >
 >  >  A journalist takes some medication that causes his skin to darken. In
 >  >  the movie, he looks black.
 >  >
 >  >  He tells of his life afterwards. Things changed for him, just because
 >  >  of his skin color. Same man. Different reactions. Of course the blacks
 >  >  that he met treated him differently also. It works two ways. No one is
 >  >  exempt. It may not be an issue in a homogenous enviroment, but it's
 >  >  there nontheless, just below the surface.
 >  >
 >  >  Perhaps it has survival benefits. Beware of anyone not of our clan.
 >  >  Different is dangerous. But we don't live in tiny groups any more.
 >  >  Attitudes can change. I hope so anyway.
 >  >                                                       
 > 
 > 
 > 
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 >         you're the last person on Earth to see the
 >         light - you'll never forget it. -- Carl Sagan
 > 
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