//- With quill in hand, Finnigann
sends off a short note to Slink,
about Re: Interestingly Enough. -\\
Sl> I'm not sure what top posting is, but if it gets me kicked off heaven
Sl> express or whatever, I suppose i'm not missing very much.. Not sure why
Sl> you seem so angry in this post, but you don't seem very much like a
Sl> nice person at all. I hope the best for you and yours..
Top posting (Thanks for yet another example) is posting your reply
ABOVE the message you are posting to. But what *I* think you are
unsure of is why it's important. (TOP POSTING is after all fairly self
explanitory) But looking back... your reply doesn't make as much sense
as if it had been placed after the parts you are replying to.
Infact it reads backasswards. Answers comming along on the page before
the questions.
And as far as my anger goes... It's all in the text below.
BTW, along with TOP POSTING not editing out such things like taglines,
signature blocks and parts of the message NOT related to your reply is
also rude.
I know you don't want to be rude. OR even thought of as being rude, so
you will work at posting as outlined (It's not just me saying this, it's
really a better way to handle threaded messages) and delete or otherwise
edit out unwanted parts. That way we get a short, to the point exchange
of ideas.
Sl> Thanks!
Sl> Slink.
>
> //- With quill in hand, Finnigann
> sends off a short note to Slink,
> about Re: Interestingly Enough. -\\
>
> Sl> Hey all,
>
> Sl> I do not like that word at all either.. I would have to agree that it
> Sl> conveys a lot of hate, however, I don't believe in censorship either.
>
> Nothing but hate. I think I was talking about internal control.
> Censorship is me telling you what you can/cannot say.
>
> Sl> It is really a good thing that people can say those words. It gives us
> Sl> an opportunity to see how we have grown as a society, and how far we
>
> There are far better ways to make that measurement.
>
>
> Sl> are moving to bridge the gap between black and white cultures. So far,
> Sl> most people really dislike that word, however we do know that some out
> Sl> there still have the tendency to make race a divider between them. Not
> Sl> just whites, but blacks as well. If censorship was in place, how would
> Sl> we know where the problem spots were?? Sometimes it's nice to have the
> Sl> opportunity to be offended every now and again, it gives us a place to
> Sl> focus our efforts to promote change. Besides, when it is all done and
> Sl> over with, the real judge of us all is God and him alone.
>
> Saddly, censorship does not stop people, it only makes it a crime. Self
> control is the only real answer. When people stop feeling the hate,
> then those words will fade away.
>
> AND when it's all said and done, it will be all siad and done. There
> isn't any magical being gonna pin a badge on anyone.
>
>
> If you choose to be a good person, it is far better you do it for the
> right reasons. If you think you will get into heaven by not calling me
> a nigger, then you'd better be calling me a nigger. Cause there ain't
> no such a ting as heaven. It is far better you realise the hurt you
> cause (and many times more than just hurt) with words like nigger. Your
> not earning a seat on the heaven express.
>
> And lastly, TOP POSTING is really bad form. That right there will knock
> you off the Heaven Express.
>
>
> Sl> Slink
> > -=> With regards to the social ramifications;
> > Mrproper wrote to Finnigann <=-
> >
> > Mr> Re: Re: Interestingly Enough.
> > Mr> By: Finnigann to Mrproper on Tue Nov 13 2007 12:39 pm
> >
> > > Where is it you find WHITE people upset (as if they had been singled
> > > out) by saying N*gger?
> >
> > Mr> It's all over the news these days.. and at times I use the word
Sl> nigger
> > Mr> and it pisses people I know off.. just as you just censored the word
> > Mr> nigger, WHY are you using that word in a derrogatory nature against
> > Mr> anyone? Why must you censor yourself.
> >
> > Because I personally hate that word. I hate what it means to nearly
> > everyone else. It's a word that means 'second class'.
> >
> > You may try to alter it's meaning (as did another poster with the words
> > 'gay' and 'fagot') But they are words that convey hate.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr> Black comedians use the word nigger what gives them the right to do
> > Mr> that? because by doing that they are using in in a slanderious
Sl> nature,
> > Mr> They also call whites crackers, who gives them the right to do that.
> >
> > Not all do, and many wont. If they want to, it doesn't change my usage.
> >
> > Nothing comes to mind as a 'white' slang. Perhaps 'craker'? Doesn't
> > convey hate to me and is a poor simile...
> >
> >
> > Mr> When Micheal Richards was heckled at when doing his stand up comedy
Sl> he
> > Mr> called the group of people niggers, how did he know that group of
> > Mr> people could have been white people, hispanics, arabs or whatever..
> >
> > I didn't see/hear that. But does anyone think he meant anyone other
> > than black people?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr> But to sum it up, yes I've had a few white folks get pissed at me
Sl> for
> > Mr> using the word nigger, My black friends don't get mad for me using
> that
> > Mr> word because they know I'm not using it in that context. I'm not a
> > Mr> racially motivated person, I look at one human being just the same
Sl> as
> > Mr> the next, I will not judge anyone by their religion either,
Sl> sometimes
> I
> > Mr> might have a good debate with them but I'm not judgmental to them.
> >
> > If you really respect your black friends, you'd find another word to
> > use. I seriously doubt they understand your views as being totally
> > benign.
> >
> > The word stings.
> >
> > Mr> Hope that covers my views on the word NIGGER and why it should'nt be
> > Mr> censored.
> >
> > A lot of people try to say, "... but NOT me!" It's not entirely YOUR
> > perception that is the deciding factor.
> >
> > What's that old sig block...
> > I know you think you understand what I said.
> > But what you don't understand,
> > what I said, wasn't what I meant.
> >
> >
> > Mr> and I still would like to know why all these white movie stars who
Sl> say
> > Mr> nigger are tarred an feathered on the media and then have to go kiss
> > Mr> jesse jackson or al sharptons ass for an apology, while at the same
> > Mr> time black and hispanic or other ethnic stars can say nigger, spic,
> > Mr> cracker, camel jocky, or whatever else without the least little buzz
> on
> > Mr> the media.
> >
> > You might, someday.
> >
> > Did you ever see/read the work, 'Black Like Me'?
> >
> > A journalist takes some medication that causes his skin to darken. In
> > the movie, he looks black.
> >
> > He tells of his life afterwards. Things changed for him, just because
> > of his skin color. Same man. Different reactions. Of course the blacks
> > that he met treated him differently also. It works two ways. No one is
> > exempt. It may not be an issue in a homogenous enviroment, but it's
> > there nontheless, just below the surface.
> >
> > Perhaps it has survival benefits. Beware of anyone not of our clan.
> > Different is dangerous. But we don't live in tiny groups any more.
> > Attitudes can change. I hope so anyway.
> >
>
>
>
> When you make the finding yourself - even if
> you're the last person on Earth to see the
> light - you'll never forget it. -- Carl Sagan
>
>
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