nightcrawler heard from esc about Re: Interesting take on S on 12-18-09
e>I honestly think that one day there will be a tangible argument of rationality
e>vs faith.
e>
e>Sorry if that offends anyone, I know someone is bound to be pissed and have a
e>retort, it's not a personal insult. Just my opinion. I don't care to try and
e>convince someone of it or argue about it, so... that's where I stand. :)
e>
There won't be such an argument made because ratioanality and faith are not
mutually exclusive.
I think there is too much to be ignored. AA and thier 12 steps to sobriety come
to mind. Totally irrational on the surface yet working those steps with God AND
humans are a sure-fire way to quit drinking. I mean bad I-can't-quit-drinking-
for-even-one-day-and-wake-up-in-my-own-piss type of drinking.
Science cannot come up with a way to quit drinking. Antibuse doesn't work. So-
called irrational faith has been proven for 80 years to work the best.
AA's beliefs and steps and tenets are irrational by the standards of non-thiests
yet are so successful. I therefore believe that thier faith is rational because
there are tangible results. The same kind of taniglbe results that dogmatic non-
thiests claim do not exist.
Does anhyone want to tell us that the faith of a recvoring drunk is irrational?
-Curt
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