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Subject: Quiting drinking by faith Date: Mon Dec 21 2009 23:44:00
From: mrproper To: Curt

  Re: Quiting drinking by faith
  By: Curt to esc on Mon Dec 21 2009 11:24 am

 > I think there is too much to be ignored. AA and thier 12 steps to sobriety
 > come to mind. Totally irrational on the surface yet working those steps
 > with God AND humans are a sure-fire way to quit drinking. I mean bad
 > I-can't-quit-drinking- for-even-one-day-and-wake-up-in-my-own-piss type of
 > drinking.
 >
 > Science cannot come up with a way to quit drinking. Antibuse doesn't work.
 > So- called irrational faith has been proven for 80 years to work the best.
 >
 > AA's beliefs and steps and tenets are irrational by the standards of
 > non-thiests yet are so successful. I therefore believe that thier faith is
 > rational because there are tangible results. The same kind of taniglbe
 > results that dogmatic non- thiests claim do not exist.
 >
 > Does anhyone want to tell us that the faith of a recvoring drunk is
 > irrational?
 >

A recovering alchoholic could look to anyone who has higher moral sandards and
stand out in society, I stopped being a morphine junky by looking up to my
father and seeing what he stood for and watching his work ethic, he did'nt need
drugs or alchohol to get through his day, his driving force was the he could
wake up, go to work, and make a living for his family. You do not need a super
natural force to guide you the way or any AA or Narconon classes to do this all
you need is a positave role model in your life.. AA and Narconon may help some
people who are weak minded but most of them end right back up where they were,
where is god to help them then? Maybe god works through these positive role
models I'm speaking of, I don't know.. It's hard to fathom religion.. but I
belive AA and narconon is a joke.


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