Re: God
By: Atari X to echicken on Mon Jan 11 2010 02:31:12
> You can manipulate the facts that are presented to you in whatever way that
> choose to. It's still pseudo-intellectual masturbation that serves no purpo
I do not understand this statement at all. I'm not sitting here presenting you
with fudged numbers or misquotations. This makes no sense and stands only as a
bizarre attempt to cut me down and fill out your message with anti-chicken
rhetoric.
> You have failed to get the one vital point I keep trying to make, but no-on
> seems to hear.
No, I understand your point. Faith does not require proof, and proof
eliminates the need for faith. You can conduct experiments which fail to prove
that God exists, while the other side doesn't even have that much of a leg to
stand on. You and I will never believe in God unless his existence can be
proven, and therefore we can never believe in God because if we did we would
not have faith. See? I get it.
All I am saying is that you haven't actually proven that God doesn't exist.
Whether or not the other side would accept your proof is irrelevant. You
simply haven't proven it. It is not a fact, and yet you toss it around as if
it is one. This is just as silly as the other side saying that God *does*
exist, when their reason is, essentially, "because I have a feeling."
It's like Nightcrawler's reference to Russell's Teapot. If somebody told me
that there was a teapot orbiting the sun between Earth and Mars (or however the
story went) but that the teapot could never be detected, I couldn't actually
say for sure that it wasn't out there. I may not believe that it's out there,
but I can't actually prove this story to be false, so I would simply abstain
from making a judgement one way or the other. Yeah, lack of proof to the
contrary does not make something true, but so what? What difference does it
make if I simply allow for the possibility that this thing is out there? None
whatsoever.
So I don't believe in God, but I like to be fair and open minded, so I allow
for the possibility that I am wrong - if only because I have no absolute proof
that I am right. This makes a lot of sense to me.
echicken
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