Re: God
By: Atari X to echicken on Wed Jan 13 2010 03:11:10
> > Part of the trouble that I'm having in discussing this with you is that y
> > seem to have a specific definition of "God" in your head (one that requir
> > "faith" to be believed in, etc.) Many people believe many different thin
> I think we covered this. God provides us with no proof of this existence -
> have to have faith that he exists at all. If there was any proof of his
> existence, regardless of how small - we'd all believe in him - it would be
> foolish not to.
> Faith is the magic sauce that makes God go. I don't know any other simpler
> to say it. If no-one had faith that God existed, then religion would have
> disappeared a long time ago.
You're just not paying attention to what I'm saying. You think that the only
possible definition of God is one that requires faith and excludes any form of
proof. I do not believe in God, I do not think that God exists, but I leave
room for the possibility that I could be proven wrong and that *something*
might be out there somewhere, even if it's some guy in a parallel universe who
picked his nose and flicked the booger that caused the big bang.
> Faith is the magic sauce that makes God go. I don't know any other simpler
> to say it. If no-one had faith that God existed, then religion would have
> disappeared a long time ago.
Some religions and systems of belief require this, yes. But not all. Even so,
the fact that so many people out there seem to strongly feel this thing, this
"faith" which I have no understanding of, is one reason why I allow for the
possibility of a God. What if this "faith" is a real thing? What if the thing
that others *need* no proof of *can* actually be proven? If that were to
happen, faith would no longer be necessary, but the thing that once required
faith but was now proven would still exist.
> For example, I have no faith that the Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy exist - an
> wow, they don't. If I believe in the Easter Bunny or Tooth Fairy even when
> don't have any faith that they exist, then I'm an idiot.
I have no faith that God exists and I don't believe that God exists, but I
allow for the possibility that I could be proven wrong. Hell, I'll stand up
and say that God does not exist, that the Easter Bunny does not exist, that the
Tooth Fairy does not exist, but I will follow that up with a statement that I'm
willing to keep an open mind, and if I ever encountered proof to the contrary -
even if nobody, including me, is looking for it - I would accept that I was
wrong.
I'm just arguing for the middle ground, where belief is not required but
humility is.
echicken
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