Re: Proving God?
By: Curt to Atari X on Sat Jan 16 2010 10:40 pm
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> The idea that anyone who might disagree with your dogmatic metaphysical view
> can only be a religous nut is pretty obvious in your posts.
>
Anyone who would disagree with me would be someone who has faith that there is
a God, simple as that.
> "Mage Grandpa" Funny. That's not what I said and you know it. But you need t
> misquote, bend and stack the deck so you can be right. That is the problem o
> all athiests who believe science backs thier religous views.
>
Science does back my lack of religious views. I have beaten that point into
the ground, I think.
> If you want to claim there is no God then fine, but leave science out of it
> because science can't help you.
>
It's because of science that I don't believe in God.
> Christians who cannot be wrong have the same problem. This is a human condit
Yes, I see how we are the same. I believe in rational explanations of the
universe, and Christians believe in fantasy worlds with magic angels and
sinister demons.
Yes, I see how we are soooo similar.
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> I said what I meant. Possible autonomous intelligence. Not a super being. No
> the creator of the universe. I didn't say science could *prove* it either. I
> said science might be able to be used to look for the effects of such an
> intelligence and possibly someday be used to peer into these dimensions wher
> such an intelegence might exist.
There might also be purple dinosaurs on distant planets. It doesn't mean I am
going to waste my time postulating their existence. I am asking, "what can god
do for me?" and you answering, "god's across the street and can't hear me."
> If these other 7 or 8 other dimensions really do exist then why should we th
> that autonomous intelligence only exists here and not there? Isn't that like
> saying life can only exist on this planet and nowhere else? If these places
> real shouldn't we be getting on with trying to observe them?
First off, it's science fiction to assume that other dimenions will be
somethign that we can experience at all. And bad science fiction at that.
But, to address your assertion - in a universe that is nearly infinite, then
there are nearly an infinite number of possibilities for what secrets our
universe might hold. Anything you can make up is probably as plausible as
anything anyone else could make up. But, through observation, gathering data,
making theories, and eliminating contradictions, we can come to the truth.
And the truth is, there is no evidence that someone else is driving this boat,
and lots of evidence that evolution and slowly methodical processes are.
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