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Subject: Proving God? Date: Tue Jan 19 2010 19:36:00
From: Curt To: Atari X

AX>
AX>They have a pretty good idea of how life started here, and it begins with
AX>self-replicating molecules in the chemical soup that was the birth of our
AX>planet.  

Damn it. I hate getting sucked into this shit because really it isn;t that 
important to me -BUT- what you are talking about abiogenesis through protocells.
HUGE problems with that. Seems they can't build a protocell let alone even hope 
to get a protocell build itself *eventhough we know how they work*.

AX>
AX>As far as the fossil record goes, that's a strawman and a distortion. There's
AX>an abundance of evidence suggested by the fossil record that suggest evolutio
AX>

The fossil record is jumbled up badly. That's not a strawman. The fossil record 
shows life here as soon as the planet can support it - which so far according to
science isn't possible. A basic self-replicating protocell is an incredible 
problem right now. People are working on it. And I really do hope they make 
progress but so far it doesn't look so hot. 

Then we have relatively little change for billions of years and bam, then this 
inexplicable explosion of diversty.  Both of these facts are against what we 
should expect to find from the theory of starting simple and getting gradually 
more and more complex.

AX>Given all of that, evolution is the most liekly culprit to explain the eviden
AX>laid before us.  And if not evolution, what other process would you suggest?

I would like to see further RnD with protocell construction. At some point we're
going to have to cave if we can't get one to poof into existence on it's own. 
Building one in a lab will not do. Although building a self-replicating 
protocell would be a good and awesome step in the right direction, building one 
only proves that inteligent beings can start life. And that is the definition of
 
Intelegent Design.

In order to really prove life started here by unguided means, we'll need to 
replicate it. That shouldn't be to tough seeing that life got started here 
practially as soon as the planet would support it.




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